So. Worked on bodice on Sunday. Learnings:
- Temporary lacing strips are the bomb!
- If gap between left and right-hand-side of front of dress is say 3 inches wide.. you need a horrendously long lace to tie it closed (longer than my normal 36″ long silk lace)
- When you have a gap, say 3 inches wide.. and there’s no strong fabric under the laces… and you are.. lumpy.. then lumps press out around the laces. Not terribly attractive.
So back to the corset idea.. though it’s evolved into more of a reinforced bodice than a corset. Using the corset pattern shown above I’ve iterated it to the point that it’s fitting nicely and supporting in all the right places. The next step is to add fabric to the top of the back and around the shoulders to make sleeve caps(the strip that runs from the front of the dress to the back of the dress and is the sleeves attachment point). Need to find pictures of the backs of german ladies dresses. Hrm.
July 31, later that day
Found pictures of the backs of these dresses. They’re very very low AND they seems to have chemise that goes plum up to their neck. This is a problem. Because Purg is going to be hot I definately don’t want an up-to-the-neck chemise (or partlet). So I think I’m going to fudge that part. Maybe a somewhat low-square neckline in the back with no chemise showing. I know it’s at least somewhat wrong.. but it will still give the impression of “German dress”.
Oh, and FedEx says wool will arrive on Wednesday. Crossing my fingers and hoping the brown will be ok.
Diary started August 1, 2006
Dress research in progress.
Summary
Research and Background
Details to include:
Inspirational Pictures
 Holbein, Hans the Younger Lais of Corinth 1526 Limewood, 34,6 x 26,8 cm Kunstmuseum, Öffentliche Kunstsammlung, Basle
 Holbein, Hans the Younger
Venus and Amor
1524-25
Limewood, 34,6 x 26,2 cm
Kunstmuseum, Öffentliche Kunstsammlung, Basle
 Cranach the Elder, Lucas (German, 1472-1553) Herodias, about 1530. Oil on panel
This style is seen around 1530 in the wood cuts “The German single-leaf woodcut, 1500-1550″ by Max Geisberg and in the Triumph of Maximillian.
Identifying details:
– Closed front opening possibly laced or hook/eye.
– Predminantly square neckline both front and back (though there are examples of round front/back necks)
– Guarding follows the neckline and along the edge of the opening down to the waist. The skirt may also have one or more guards on it.
– Guarding can be slashed or patterned.
– Skirt pleated into the bodice.
– Most sleeves are fairly simple but there may be some slashing at joints(elbow/shoulder).
– They could also have wide cuffed ‘funnel’ sleeves.
– Headgear is usually a wulsthaube and/or a barret (with and without feathers) of some kind.
– Occasionally these are shown with a doublet style bodice
– This is the most commonly seen garment on city women of *all* classes.
Inspirational Pictures
 G.1214 Musketeer and Wife c.1535 The German single-leaf woodcut, 1500-1550, Max Geisberg ; rev. and edited by Walter L. Strauss, New York : Hacker Art Books, 1974.
 Edhard Schoen G.1235-1238. Detail – Army Train 1532 The German single-leaf woodcut, 1500-1550, Max Geisberg ; rev. and edited by Walter L. Strauss, New York : Hacker Art Books, 1974.
 G.1264 Encampment The German single-leaf woodcut, 1500-1550, Max Geisberg ; rev. and edited by Walter L. Strauss, New York : Hacker Art Books, 1974.
 1520 Hans Holbein, Swiss Gown
 1562 Allaert Claesz, death dressed as a fool pursuing a couple; Death holding up an hourglass; the man at centre pushing him away from the fleeing woman, whose hand Death has grasped; from a series of seven engravings.
 1546 Camp scene of Charles V: Zeltlager Kaiser Karls V. vor Lauingen im Jahre 1546;Stadtansicht von Lauingen Dieses Bild: 015457 Kunstwerk: Malerei-Holz ; Tafelbild ; Gerung Matthias Dokumentation: 1551 ; 1551 ; Lauingen ; Deutschland ; Schwaben ; Heimathaus Anmerkungen: 100×200 ; . . . wider Laster und Sünde (Ausst.Kat.), Augsburg 1997, Nr. 97.
 1528, Beham, Barthel Portrait of Anna Scheit, nee Mem(m)inger, oil on panel

Holbein

Holbein

Holbein

Dürer, Albrecht
Seated Woman
1514
Resources
Curious Frau
A Beginners Guide to 16 Century German Womens Dress – How to
Landsknecht.org: The International Landsknecht community and once again home of Stockholmsfänikan
SCA German Renaissance Research
Dress Diaries
Red&Black Swiss Gown
Green&Gold Swiss Gown
FedEx lied, but in a good way. Fabric arrived yesterday. The brown is acceptable. It’s not the “liver” color I wanted.. but it’s good enough.
I tried to place the sleeve caps. Hard to do when one side is behind your back.. and that’s the side you need to pin down. I’ll wait on “Open Project Night” (tomorrow) and hope that Edith comes over to pin the straps. Other than that I think I’m ready to move onto the actual garment.
 Finished dress worn 5/30/2010. Picture taken by Edith
Diary started August 1, 2006
Progress: “Finished” 5/30/2010. Dress is now wearable. Still has some finishing work to do on it.
Summary
So it turns out I look smashing in Germans. Whodathunk? So I’m willing to do it some more. This requires that I have more than one german gown. The Cranach type gown is lovely (see Cranach dress diary).. but not really camp garb. So I need a new dress. The clothes of a Kampfrau seem especially suited to camping (go figure). So it begins.
Research and Background
Details to include:
- Dress made of wool lined in linen
- Simple front-closing bodice that laces or hooks in the front (leaning towards hooks).
- Multiple guards on the dress (assuming I find that guards are appripriate)
- Fantasticly over-the-top sleeves.Since I want this to be a working dress it looks like “fantastic over-the-top sleeves” would be wrong.. so.. ok.. simple sleeves.
- The dress of 1,001 accessories (bottle, knife, pouch, etc, etc)


Started on the pants last night. After 20 minutes of frustrated pinning of fabric Fearghus suggested the he has some ratty cloth pants that could be sacrificed to the pattern. It took all of 5 minutes to get the seam lines drawn in the right place and cut it out. It took much much longer to lay out the new pattern pieces on some linen for the first attempt. This involved a lot of scrabbling around on the ground.
Finally I got both legs cut out. This is a new pattern to me. I’ve never put pants together in this way. They went together very quickly. Possibly more quickly than my normal “Quasi-peri-oid Pants” that I usually use.
I’ll need to adjust the initial pattern a little bit. I think the waist of the cloth pants were stretched out when he had them on.. so when I sewed the test patten together the gap for the codpiece was -huge-. We’re talking 8-10 inches across. Much larger then it needs to be. (especially when you consider that he was kinda iffy about the whole “codpiece” idea to begin with) I’ll add a bit of fabric and bring it back down to a reasonable size. I think I also need to raise the waist a little bit. Otherwise when he sits the pants will dip alarmingly. All-in-all I think it’s going very well.
Based on the size of the single piece leg pieces I can definately see why you would make this out of different colored stripes. If I have time I’ll definately try this.
Edith came by last night and helped fix the top of the bodice. In addition to adding the sleeve caps she helped to fit the area around the arm. After it was all fitted she marked where the seam lines should be. Side-back into the arm hole and across the top of the shoulder (just behind the top.. more like top-back). Hopefully this will allow me to cut the current pattern apart to make another copy of it (this time with all the pieces attached). The final bodice is a total of 4 pieces. Back, 2 side-back, and front. The back and side-backs will be made of brown fabric. The front will be made of white with the “brustfleck” on the top.
Things to change on the pattern pieces:
- Add about 1″ to the back bottom so that I have room to attach the skirt.
- Add a short square “tail” to the bottom of the middle of the back piece. I want to run the boning down into the tail to prevent those bones from poking me in the top of the butt.
- Add seam allowance at side-back seam and shoulder seam.
Plan:
- Cut out all pieces. Two layers of linen for each piece.
- Sew inner back and side-back pieces together.
- Sew outer back and side-back pieces together.
- Sew inner full-back piece to outer full-back piece along the top, right and left edges (leaving bottom open). Don’t sew shoulder straps. Flip outside-out and iron.
- Sew inner front piece to outer front piece along top, right and left edges (leaving bottom open). Flip outside-out and iron.
- Add boning channels. Add boning. Add tacking stitches to keep boning in place.
- Add lacing strip to one side of the front piece and the matching side of the back piece.
- Attach other side of front permanently to back
- Try it on.
- Adjust the sleeve caps and sew them together.
Assuming everything above here works:
- Add fashion fabric (brown wool) and decorative trim.
- Make skirt and attach pleated skirt to bodice.
- Make accessories.
Finished #1-4 above. I forgot to add the tabs to the back-bottom of the bodice. I’ll see about adding it to the final one. Initially I added seam allowance to the straps.. but during the cutting out I convinced myself that wasn’t needed and I cut it off. I really shouldn’t have listened to myself. I’m pretty sure I’ll need to add it back in. Otherwise my straps are way to small. I also think I forgot to add seam allowance to the ends of the straps. *sigh*
Even will all the errors, the cutting out and initial sewing together went very quickly. I’m very close to moving on to working on the actual garment. Not a moment too soon either.. I’m pretty much out of the fabric I’ve been using for the test patterns.
Up next: adventures with linen
I am again reminded that I need to try harder when I’m using a pattern. When you’re making something that’s closely fitted to your skin you really really need to make sure you don’t (say) accidentally add 1/2 inch to each side of all of the pattern pieces so that the sewn together first draft in linen is about 3 inches too big. *sigh*
So I cut out the dress twice this weekend and sewed it together twice. Take two was much better than take one.
Learnings so far:
- A pattern piece is a carefully fitted shape that exactly recreates the shape needed to get the desired fit of the garment. Sloppy duplicates of the pattern piece lead to sloppy garments.
- If you’re a big busty woman you can’t expect really thin linen to support you properly (see Yellow Cote dress diary for the first time I learned this). You’d think that having tried this now twice, I’d learn. But no. When I started cutting out “take one” I thought to myself “gee, this linen is thin” but kept on cutting anyway. Thin linen + sloppy pattern cutting = unsupportive and unflattering garment.
- Lacing tape is crap. It doesn’t seem like something that would be crap. But believe me, it’s crap. The twill tape is very loosely woven. I’ve tried the garment on twice and already the grommets are popping out of the tape. I’m going to stop by Lacis tonight on the way home and get a couple of 24″ Lacing Stays. These are the things I described as “the bomb” earlier. If I had time I would do hand-bound eyelets.. but only 3 weeks left.. and I still have to make his pants and waffenrock.
- The original pattern I made up had the center (white) stomach thingy fitting exactly between the left-hand and right-hand sides of the brown part of the bodice. In tweaking this I’ve discovered that I like it better if the white is behind the brown.
The white is permanently affixed to the brown on the left-hand side.. and then is laced in on the right-hand side. I’ll need to make the white about 1 1/2 inches bigger than the pattern piece so that it will 1) still fit me, 2) get the proper overlap and 3) be able to sew it in such a way that the stitches don’t run over the bones. The lace will need to be set back about 1/2 to 3/4″ on the brown. I think that’ll work much better.
- Turns out Fearghus is very handy when it comes to making steel bones shorter. That armor making stuff had to come in handy at some point.
- It’s -very- flattering when you finally get “take two” sewn together.. and you’re modeling it in front of the mirror to decide what to do next.. and your boy practically wolf-whistles at you.

(Especially when I think back to his look of horror when he saw the sloppy and unsupportive “take one”.)

Pattern pieces (not entirely to scale). From left-to-right, Back, side-back (make 2), front stomach thingy. Bones marked in pale blue.
Here’s a basic picture of the pattern pieces I’ve ended up using. Because the top of the back has such a square between the sleeves and the top of the neck in the back, it made more sense to cut the sleeve-caps as separate pieces and attach them to the back piece (the left piece). In the sewn versions of this, this makes a lovely crisp square at the back neck line. I’m not sure what I’m going to do when I go to add the fashion fabric (wool) on the outside of the bodice. I’m not terribly fond of the idea of showing those seams between the sleeve cap and the rest of the back.. but I do definitely like the crisp square I’m getting by cutting them as two pieces.
After careful consideration I’ve abandoned the idea of adding a tab to the bottom of the back piece. I can’t figure out how I would attach the skirt to the bodice if the tab was in the way. Plan A for now is to just to keep the back bones short enough that they don’t poke me in the butt. Plan B (if plan A fails miserably) is to make a bone casing with integrated tab and hand-stitch that to the interior of the dress -after- the skirt is attached.
So very close. Monday I stopped at Lacis and picked up Lacing Stays. They are -so- the bomb. Fearghus trimmed them to the correct length and helped me to set the grommets in them. Tuesday afternoon I attached them to the shell.
Tuesday night I tried it on. Gah.. again I can’t measure to save my life (or rather I measure and then I’m too conservative in my additions)(once burned by adding too much, now I add to little). The shell, all cinched down is very tight. Too tight. I could wear it that way for about 20 minutes before I cried uncle. I messed with the lace and unlaced it to the point where I was supported but it still felt comfortable enough to wear for a day. At this point I need to add 1 3/8 inches to the top and probably 1 1/2 inches to the bottom. I’ll do this by making one more stab at the white insert. Hopefully this will be the last stab.
Luckily Edith was able to help me connect the sleeve front and back. I’ll be all set to move forward on that once I re-do the insert (again).
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In the SCA I'm known as Baroness Sylvie la chardonniere. This is my blog to dither on about my SCA research projects (or whatever blows my hair back)(and a lot of stuff blows my hair back).
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